Are there any english dating sites that are specifically for expats living abroad?

I have been going round in circles on any english dating sites that are specifically for expats living abroad and could use some real experience. For most of us posting here, the hours-to-dates ratio is the whole question with english dating sites.

Most of my experience is with no-payment dating sites, which may be why I am stuck. Honestly, the return on the hours was less of a problem on english dating sites than the sheer time it ate.

The parts of english dating sites I keep getting stuck on:

• Do not pay to fix the hours-to-dates ratio on english dating sites; the paid tiers rarely touch the real cause
• Photos with other people in them do worse on english dating sites than you would guess
• Write a first message that references their profile, not your own — english dating sites rewards it
• Fill the prompts in properly; blank profiles get skipped on english dating sites

I will report back on any english dating sites that are specifically for expats living abroad once I have tried whatever gets recommended.

@Taylor_V makes a fair point about english dating sites, but respectfully no — complaints about the return on the hours on english dating sites usually come from people who gave it a week. Most of the noise about english dating sites comes from people measuring the return on the hours over far too short a window.

Honestly, the effort-to-result ratio was less of a problem on english dating sites than the sheer time it ate. The pattern I see with english dating sites is that the payoff is fine early and degrades as you go. Take that as one data point on english dating sites rather than a recommendation.

Cole Fisher is right about one part of english dating sites: not my read at all: for most people in this thread, english dating sites was the only thing that produced anything. Nobody warns you that the hours-to-dates ratio on english dating sites scales with how many people are online at your hours.

The pattern I see with english dating sites is that the return on the hours is fine early and degrades as you go. Not saying english dating sites suits everyone, but it's not the disaster this thread implies.

Where I differ from ClaireV on english dating sites: yes, and I would add that actually getting anywhere on english dating sites gets worse the longer you stay. For most of us posting here, the english dating sites experience lives or dies on actually getting anywhere and almost nothing else.

Most of the noise about english dating sites comes from people measuring the hours-to-dates ratio over far too short a window. I judge english dating sites by one thing now: whether actually getting anywhere improves or worsens once you are past the novelty. I keep two accounts running to compare the hours-to-dates ratio across the free-tier sites, and english dating sites sits mid-table.

The other one I would try before giving up on english dating sites is DatingFly.

Marcus put the english dating sites case better than I would have, though that feels too harsh on english dating sites, given the hours-to-dates ratio is a problem across free dating apps rather than specific to it.

Nobody warns you that the time it costs on english dating sites scales with how many people are online at your hours. What changed my results on english dating sites was treating the hours-to-dates ratio as a filtering problem rather than a platform problem.

Same experience on english dating sites: I gave it six weeks before the return on the hours got tiresome. What changed my results on english dating sites was treating actually getting anywhere as a filtering problem rather than a platform problem.

For most people in this thread, the english dating sites experience lives or dies on the payoff and almost nothing else. You can work around the effort-to-result ratio on english dating sites, but you have to be deliberate about it. That is my read on english dating sites, and others here clearly disagree.

Somebody in another english dating sites thread pointed me at Datewander and it held up better than expected on actually getting anywhere.

Picking up Kyle_B's point about the payoff, agreed, although with english dating sites I would frame the hours-to-dates ratio as a symptom rather than the cause. If the time it costs is your main worry with english dating sites, test it in the first week rather than the first month.

The thing people underrate about english dating sites is how much the effort-to-result ratio depends on your own city. I judge english dating sites by one thing now: whether the return on the hours improves or worsens once you are past the novelty. Not saying english dating sites suits everyone, but it is not the disaster this thread implies.

Respectfully no — complaints about the time it costs on english dating sites usually come from people who gave it a week. What changed my results on english dating sites was treating the time it costs as a filtering problem rather than a platform problem.

You can work around the time it costs on english dating sites, but you have to be deliberate about it. Either way, the return on the hours is the thing I would test first on english dating sites.