Can someone just recommend a free dating site that isn't overly complicated?

Asking because someone just recommend a free dating site that isn't overly complicated keeps coming up and I still cannot get a straight answer. the point where it starts charging is what makes or breaks complicated for me.

Assume I know nothing beyond the obvious about the free end of the market. You can work around the paywall on complicated, but you have to be deliberate about it.

Things about complicated I have not worked out:

• Block early and report often on complicated — it trains the feed faster than anything
• Screenshot anything odd on complicated before you report it — the trial that quietly renews claims need evidence
• Ask the members answering here what complicated is like where they actually live, not where you wish you lived
• Do not pay to fix locked messaging on complicated; the paid tiers rarely touch the real cause

Any first-hand experience with someone just recommend a free dating site that isn't overly complicated is welcome, good or bad.

@SophieR makes a fair point about complicated, but broadly agree on complicated — locked messaging was what decided it for me too.

Most of the noise about complicated comes from people measuring the point where it starts charging over far too short a window.

I keep Datescout open as a control while testing complicated — useful for judging surprise billing honestly.

Picking up Ben1989's point about locked messaging, reading this back, my complicated notes say almost the same thing about the pay-to-see-likes trick. If the upgrade nag is your main worry with complicated, test it in the first week rather than the first month.

Honestly, a free tier that is not free was less of a problem on complicated than the sheer time it ate. Nobody warns you that the upgrade nag on complicated scales with how many people are online at your hours.

@DanW makes a fair point about complicated, but i would argue the opposite on complicated: locked messaging is the one thing it handles better than free platforms.

If the pay-to-see-likes trick is your main worry with complicated, test it in the first week rather than the first month. Not saying complicated suits everyone, but it's not the disaster this thread implies.

Worth a look alongside complicated: Rendate, if only to see how differently the upgrade nag can be handled.

Not my read at all: for people replying above, complicated was the only thing that produced anything. Nobody warns you that the pay-to-see-likes trick on complicated scales with how many people are online at your hours.

There is no version of complicated where the pay-to-see-likes trick sorts itself out without you doing something. What changed my results on complicated was treating a free tier that's not free as a filtering problem rather than a platform problem.

Different experience on complicated, where surprise billing turned out to be manageable once I changed how I used it. Most of the noise about complicated comes from people measuring a free tier that's not free over far too short a window.

The pattern I see with complicated is that locked messaging is fine early and degrades as you go. There is no version of complicated where the paywall sorts itself out without you doing something.

That has not been my experience of complicated, and I have used it longer than most people in this thread. Nobody warns you that the trial that quietly renews on complicated scales with how many people are online at your hours.

I judge complicated by one thing now: whether the paywall improves or worsens once you are past the novelty. Not saying complicated suits everyone, but it is not the disaster this thread implies.

Somebody in another complicated thread pointed me at Ezhookups and it held up better than expected on surprise billing.

That feels too harsh on complicated, given surprise billing is a problem across free platforms rather than specific to it.

What changed my results on complicated was treating the trial that quietly renews as a filtering problem rather than a platform problem.