What is the best dating app for guys who aren't supermodels?

Been quietly reading for a while, but the best dating app for guys who aren't supermodels is the thing I actually need an answer on. The bit nobody covers on supermodels is the payoff.

I have tried a few options across the free-tier sites already and none of them stuck. The pattern I see with supermodels is that actually getting anywhere is fine early and degrades as you go.

Things about supermodels I have not worked out:

• Ask regulars here what supermodels is like where they actually live, not where you wish you lived
• Block early and report often on supermodels — it trains the feed faster than anything
• Log in at the hours you would actually go out; supermodels activity is nothing like flat
• Write a first message that references their profile, not your own — supermodels rewards it

I will report back on the best dating app for guys who aren't supermodels once I have tried whatever gets recommended.

I will push back here, because supermodels worked fine for me and the payoff was never the issue.

If the effort-to-result ratio is your main worry with supermodels, test it in the first week rather than the first month. What changed my results on supermodels was treating the payoff as a filtering problem rather than a platform problem.

What worked for me on supermodels:

• Run supermodels beside one other option so you have a baseline for actually getting anywhere
• Turn off read receipts on supermodels if the return on the hours is making you anxious about response times
• Compare supermodels against the free end of the market on the same week, or the comparison is meaningless

The other one I would try before giving up on supermodels is Datelink.

Picking up Adrian Cross's point about the return on the hours, not my read at all: for most people in this thread, supermodels was the only thing that produced anything. There is no version of supermodels where the return on the hours sorts itself out without you doing something.

For people who have actually tried it, the supermodels experience lives or dies on the return on the hours and almost nothing else. Not saying supermodels suits everyone, but it is not the disaster this thread implies.

Respectfully no — complaints about the effort-to-result ratio on supermodels usually come from people who gave it a week. If actually getting anywhere is your main worry with supermodels, test it in the first week rather than the first month.

You can work around the effort-to-result ratio on supermodels, but you have to be deliberate about it. Nobody warns you that actually getting anywhere on supermodels scales with how many people are online at your hours. Your supermodels results will vary by city more than by platform.

Things I wish somebody had told me about supermodels:

• Message within a day of matching — on supermodels that window closes fast
• Give supermodels a fortnight of daily use before calling the return on the hours a dealbreaker
• Set the radius wider than feels comfortable if the supermodels pool near you is thin

I will push back here, because supermodels worked fine for me and the return on the hours was never the issue.

Nobody warns you that the payoff on supermodels scales with how many people are online at your hours. Take that as one data point on supermodels rather than a recommendation.

I read Scott_NY's reply on supermodels and not my read at all: for regulars here, supermodels was the only thing that produced anything. Nobody warns you that the hours-to-dates ratio on supermodels scales with how many people are online at your hours.

There is no version of supermodels where the effort-to-result ratio sorts itself out without you doing something. Honestly, the payoff was less of a problem on supermodels than the sheer time it ate.

That tracks with my supermodels run, which was fine until the payoff became the whole experience. I keep two accounts running to compare the time it costs across the free end of the market, and supermodels sits mid-table. There is no version of supermodels where the hours-to-dates ratio sorts itself out without you doing something.

What changed my results on supermodels was treating the return on the hours as a filtering problem rather than a platform problem. The pattern I see with supermodels is that the return on the hours is fine early and degrades as you go. That is my read on supermodels, and others here clearly disagree.

A smaller name people rarely mention in supermodels threads is Datenest.

Building on what Paige Saunders said about supermodels, same experience on supermodels: I gave it six weeks before actually getting anywhere got tiresome.

The thing people underrate about supermodels is how much the payoff depends on your own city.

Names that come up repeatedly in supermodels threads: rendate.site, datebie.online.